Running hot and cold at the pumps?
So they're suing the gasoline companies to force them to regulate the temperature of gasoline coming from the pumps. To date such suits have been filed in California, Delaware, New Jersey, Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana, New Mexico, Nevada, Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee and Georgia. The idea is, in warmer areas and warmer times of the year, gasoline expands considerably. Since there's only so many BTU's of energy per average temperature gallon, the "hot" gasoline will give you far less miles than cool gasoline.
I can see how people in places like the southwest or south might gain by this since their average temperatures are higher than in the north, but it would seem to me states that are suing like New Jersey, Delaware or here in Kentucky we would average out over the year. Hot weather we get expanded gasoline and less miles per gallon, but freezing weather it's contracted gasoline thus giving us more miles per gallon.
The other thing would be just how they would determine what temperature to set for dispensed gasoline. Would it be the same nationwide, or would they set it for an average for that area. Let's say for instance that Arizona has an average annual temperature of 82° so they set all Arizona pumps to dispense gasoline at that temperature. The end result would be the residents of Arizona would wind up spending exactly the same amount for gasoline each year, but now we've installed expensive temperature control devices on every pump. People in the very south of Arizona might well gain a little from this, but places like Flagstaff, where two foot snows are not uncommon in the winter, they would be buying warmed gasoline and get less mileage per gallon on average.
One major problem I do see with the idea of cooling gasoline as the pump dispenses it. Once it's in the tank of your car on a hot day, it's going to start warming up and expanding. Automobile gas tanks are designed not to explode in such situations, but the gas cap is going to be venting gasoline fumes out into the air like crazy as this expansion takes place. That means in towns and cities we'd be smelling gasoline fumes much more strongly, and someone smoking near a venting gas cap could well create a major fire hazzard.
To me it looks like another lawsuit trying to get something for nothing.
I can see how people in places like the southwest or south might gain by this since their average temperatures are higher than in the north, but it would seem to me states that are suing like New Jersey, Delaware or here in Kentucky we would average out over the year. Hot weather we get expanded gasoline and less miles per gallon, but freezing weather it's contracted gasoline thus giving us more miles per gallon.
The other thing would be just how they would determine what temperature to set for dispensed gasoline. Would it be the same nationwide, or would they set it for an average for that area. Let's say for instance that Arizona has an average annual temperature of 82° so they set all Arizona pumps to dispense gasoline at that temperature. The end result would be the residents of Arizona would wind up spending exactly the same amount for gasoline each year, but now we've installed expensive temperature control devices on every pump. People in the very south of Arizona might well gain a little from this, but places like Flagstaff, where two foot snows are not uncommon in the winter, they would be buying warmed gasoline and get less mileage per gallon on average.
One major problem I do see with the idea of cooling gasoline as the pump dispenses it. Once it's in the tank of your car on a hot day, it's going to start warming up and expanding. Automobile gas tanks are designed not to explode in such situations, but the gas cap is going to be venting gasoline fumes out into the air like crazy as this expansion takes place. That means in towns and cities we'd be smelling gasoline fumes much more strongly, and someone smoking near a venting gas cap could well create a major fire hazzard.
To me it looks like another lawsuit trying to get something for nothing.
posted by Fish-2 at 10:55 AM
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It's amazing some of the goofy stuff that the bureaucrats come up with. Makes you wonder if the Republic can make it to it's 300th birthday party. It'll die from bureacratic, nanny-state overload.
That expanding part is a bit scary.
The gas temp suit is just another thing to make gasoline more expensive.
Well, let's see, the coefficient of expansion of gasoline is 0.006 per degree farenheit, the tank holds 25 gallons, it's 83 degrees out....aw shoot, guess I'll sue. Lesse, some guy sues for $54 million for a pair of pants lost at the cleaners..how about $95 million, with a couple for pain and suffering trying to do the expansion math?
I hear you AGT. Everytime a legislative body meets we lose freedoms.
Yes Pamela, you know they'll have to add a cost recovery price onto every gallon until they've paid for the temp regulators ten thousand times over.
BB, go another 95 for pain and suffering. Math is tough.
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